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Pork served at Pizza Hut
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Dear all,

*Famous Pizza Outlets viz. Dominos and Pizza Hut in India are serving Pork**Pizza (named as pepperoni pizza)

**Many People think that this is bread pepperoni but their website as well as restaurant menu clearly states that this is Pork (100%)

I urge people not eat at these outlets as your pizza would be baked in the same oven or may be in the same pan in which a Pork Pizza was baked before. **I know most of you guys might be aware of this and might be avoiding it as well but would you prefer to eat a pizza baked in a same pan which is used to bake PORK Pizza .*Please check

http://www.pizzahut.co.in/pizzas_menu.php?city_id=30&food_type=2

http://www.pizzahut.co.in and http://www.dominos.co.in/ to see it for yourself *

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Commented By: abdul khayyum On: 09-02-2012

Can you say the same about once body or parts, they were same and remains same as long as Human Race exists and ISLAM is also the same religion with out alterations againts what our Prophet (SAW) guided.
Commented By: Siraj On: 16-11-2010

This is not applicable to Pizza Hut Hyderabad as the Pepperoni Pizza is not on its menu. Pizza Hut Hyderabad at least the one on Banjara hills road no 12 is HALAL.

Dominoes on the other hand is not Halal in most places in Hyderabad.
Commented By: sohail On: 16-11-2010

Dear Siraj

I wonder if they have separate inventory to store chicken and pork. If they are using the same inventory to store (processed refrigerated) chicken and pork through out the country and then distributing it to other branches, then I guess there are chances that your local city branch is not getting the 100% halal chicken. You can google/bing with the keywords " Pizzahut inventory". If there is any authentic proof that pizza hut banjara hills is serving 100% halal then share it.

Thank you

Mohammed Sohail
Commented By: Siraj On: 16-11-2010

Assalaamalaikum,

I’ve called the Pizza hut call center (+914039883988) and also the Banjara hills branch (+914066660255) they have confirmed that Chicken is Halal and is sourced locally, so there is no chance of Pork being inventoried with Chicken (for only the Hyderabad branches).

To the larger community I have a question.


How far should one to go ascertain the possibility of the Halal chicken being contaminated during its journey from wherever to your plate??

Personally, I am getting totally paranoid about eating non-veg outside. My regular choice at Pizza Hut is Spicy Veggie. J

One personal experience: A muslim butcher, who supplies to many restaurants, performed non-halal to a batch of chickens when my father had gone to buy some chicken. When asked why he is getting it done that way (by a non-muslim) he replied that the chicken was for a non-muslim restaurant. He also supposed that Muslims don’t go to that restaurant. Imagine the other side, A muslim guys goes to this particular restaurant and asks where he sourced the chicken from. He gets a reply.. Madina Chicken Center.. that will seal for this muslim that the chicken is halal (when it is not!!) My father has stopped going to this butcher, he now takes time to sacrifice the chicken himself to be devoid of any doubts.

So when butchers are doing such and such for a quick buck, as well as other stories of dead chickens mixed with halal chicken, what options do we have to ascertain the legality of the claim of halal in most places.


Naazubillah, it might also happen that some outlets go and do halal certificate shopping (like Fatwa shopping, going from scholar to scholar till they find one who will give the certificate at the right price).

Sorry for the rant, but I think this is a valid issue. Any comments??

Wassalaam
Siraj
Commented By: Rajavulla On: 16-11-2010

Why can’t we avoid to eat such un-certain things.
Commented By: Gerrrans On: 16-11-2010

What happens if you have already eaten pork without knowing it? What is the consequence?
Commented By: karleton On: 16-11-2010

Intention is the key. It was done unknowingly/unwillingly, we ask Allah for forgiveness.
Commented By: Jameel On: 16-11-2010

There are two separate aspects here. One is intention. If one assumes (to the best of their knowledge) to be halal but it isn’t, there is no sin on the individual. The second is the effect of the haram food on the individual (both physical as well as meta physical). That still applies. As an (crude) analogy, if a person consumes poison which was mis-labled and the person assumed it to be medicine, there is no blame on the person (i.e. it wasn’t his fault), but the effect is still there.

With salaams,
-Jameel
Commented By: karleton On: 16-11-2010

1. What is the physical effect of the food on an individual?

2. What is the metaphysical effect of the food on an individual?
Commented By: faisal On: 16-11-2010

PART I.

Let’s take a step back and try to understand the issue and the perspective.

In Islamic law (like other religious systems), actions/objects are generally classified in different categories. Our scholars have classified then in Five broad categories (while some have given more detailed classifications). The wording would be different based on whether it’s an action or an object, but I’m just simplifying things here for understanding/discussion.

1. Obligations (things we’re required to do. Leaving them is punishable and doing them is rewarded)

2. Recommendations (things to do, but not as strong as obligations. Leaving it is not punishable, but doing them earns reward)

3. Permissible (no reward for doing these and no punishment for leaving these)

4. Detestable (encouraged to avoid. No punishment for doing them, but leaving then is rewarded)

5. Impermissible (things we’re required to avoid. Doing them is punishable and leaving then is rewarded)

Another aspect of the sacred law is that sometimes we’re given a ruling and along with it, it’s benefit is also explained. For example we’re told about fornication along with its evils… “Nor come nigh to adultery: for it is a shameful (deed) and an evil, opening the road (to other evils). Quran 17:32”

But other times we’re given the ruling, without explicitly being given the rationale behind it. Scholars explain that the reason is that if for every single thing we’re given explicit details, then where is the faith, so although the rulings (do’s and don’ts) ALL have valid reasoning, but some are kept hidden and we follow those rulings because we worship not the intellect, but the creator of the intellect and everything else. But scholars have still tried to find reasoning behind almost all the rulings to satisfy the curiosity in human mind.
Commented By: faisal On: 16-11-2010

PART II.

Before we move any further, lets clarify something very important. Things are Permissible (Halal) or Impermissible (Haram) ONLY because God Almighty told us as HE is the ONLY ONE who has the right to declare anything Halal/Haram from his creation for us. Even the prophets and messengers (may peace and blessings of God be upon them all) did not have that right. They only conveyed to their people as messengers, what God revealed to them. This is very important to understand because things are not Halal/Haram because it make sense. While I’ll argue that all rulings in the sharia (sacred law) have absolute benefit for human beings (individual and society), but their reasoning or logical explanation is NOT what makes them permissible or impermissible.

If the above is clear, then we can look at eating of pork, which comes in the last category, meaning it’s impermissible. On a side note, it’s also impermissible in the Bible, for example Leviticus 11:7-8, Deuteronomy 14:8, etc). Some Christians do argue that the law of the Old Testament is not applicable now since Jesus brought the new law, but that idea is contrary to what Jesus said in Matthew 5:17-18. So I would argue that it still applies to the Christians and we already know that Jews consider it impermissible as well.

Anyways, a Muslim who gets involved knowingly and willingly into something that’s from category 5, then that person is incurring a sin which is punishable, should God decide not to forgive. And the one who stays away from it, is rewarded.
Commented By: faisal On: 16-11-2010

PART III.

Now there’s the matter of intention. Prophet Muhammad pbuh is reported to have said “deeds are by intention …”. So if someone did not intend to eat something impermissible and got mislead/confused that it was something else or what have you, then according to the Sharia (sacred law), there’s no blame on that person. Just like during fasting, it’s impermissible to eat/drink during the day time, but if someone forgets and eat by mistake as he didn’t remember he was fasting, then he doesn’t lose his fast, provided he stops immediately if someone reminds him of the fasting or he remembers on his own.

But there’s another matter that’s of greater concern in Islam than the mere physical level and that’s the spiritual level. From that perspective, you have to be very vigilant to protect not only your physical being from physical harm, but you have to protect your spirit/soul from spiritual harm. If a person ends up doing something from category 5 out of carelessness or laziness, for example, he was not really concerned about finding out what he was eating, etc, then over time, that lowers the gravity of category 5 (impermissible things) in his eyes.
Commented By: faisal On: 16-11-2010

PART IV.

There’s a beautiful tradition from Prophet Muhammad pbuh, that clarifies this issue. I’ve put line numbers for different statements to briefly point out the obvious.

1. That which is lawful is plain and that which is unlawful is plain and
2. between the two of them are doubtful matters about which not many people know.
3. Thus he who avoids doubtful matters clears himself in regard to his religion and his honor,
4. but he who falls into doubtful matters falls into that which is unlawful,
5. like the shepherd who pastures around a sanctuary, all but grazing therein.
6. Truly every king has a sanctuary, and truly Allah's sanctuary is His prohibitions.
7. Truly in the body there is a morsel of flesh which, if it be whole, all the body is whole
8. and which, if it be diseased, all of it is diseased.
9. Truly it is the heart.”

Brief comments:

1. Clearly permissible/impermissible things are few and at the opposite end of the spectrum (like BLACK and WHITE)
2. Vast majority of things between the two ends are GREY (doubtful) – and most people don’t know them clearly, meaning you have to make some effort to clarify them.
3. Staying away from doubtful matters is like “better safe than sorry”
4. Getting involved in doubtful, would eventually LEAD to getting involved in the impermissible
5. example of a shepherd grazing his sheep near a Kings sanctuary and eventually the sheep would end up INSIDE the sanctuary (although they started outside)
6. Sanctuary of God, in this hadith, is the things he has made impermissible, so by logic we should not go near those limits and stay at a safer distance

7-9. This is where the prophet pbuh gave us the clue as to what happens when you’re constantly involved in the doubtful matters, and that is that it leads to the ailment of the heart at least at the spiritual level, which would eventually lead to the ailment of the soul.
Commented By: faisal On: 16-11-2010

PART V.

As I said earlier, comments are nothing but stating the obvious.

Now, with this background, to your questions:

1. What is the physical effect of the food on an individual?
2. What is the metaphysical effect of the food on an individual?

As you may have already guessed, it really doesn’t matter whether we can quantify the physical/meta physical effects. Impermissible is impermissible because God said so, and not because of their physical/meta physical effects. Even if there’s no physical effect, the spiritual effects are grave on the soul in the long run, by virtue of getting involve in GREY matters, or in this case category 5. Getting involve in impermissible acts leads to the hardening of the heart (spiritually).

But if you go on the internet and search, you’ll find that the Naturopaths in the Western alternative medicine have been using this for quite some time, that is “you are what you eat”, meaning what you eat affects you. Muslim scholars, as early as the 6th century of Islam (12th century Gregorian), had this understanding that the reason why we’re not allowed to eat the “hunter” animals that kill and eat other animals (flesh eating), is because you don’t want to acquire their qualities. That was their understanding in an attempt to explain and you agree or disagree with that. Doesn’t really matter.

You can probably do a better search than me, but I’ll provide you with a few links that talk about this FOOD matter..

http://www.thinkingpharma.com/2009/09/you-are-what-you-eat.html

http://www.naturaltherapypages.com.au/therapist/naturopathborman/13004

Hopefully I didn’t confuse the issue further for you, but let me know if I did and I’ll try to clear it up.

In the end, Allah knows best..

Best Regards
Faisal Qureshi
Commented By: karleton On: 16-11-2010

Beautiful! May Allah reward you, Dear Respected Brother Faisal
Commented By: Siraj On: 16-11-2010

Me too…

Wonderfully simple to understand…

Would like to know how long it took you to write that up..

Mashallah..



Clears up not only this veg/non-veg but all halal and haram aspects of a believer’s life.

Wassalaam

Siraj
Commented By: Raheel On: 16-11-2010

There is no sin on you for eating pig meat without intending to, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And there is no sin on you concerning that in which you made a mistake, except in regard to what your hearts deliberately intend. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”

[al-Ahzaab 33:5]

And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah has forgiven my ummah for mistakes, forgetfulness and that which they are forced to do.” Narrated by Ibn Maajah, 2043; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani.

The Muslim should be cautious with regard to food, especially if he is in a non-Muslim country whose people eat impure foods.
Commented By: mohammed irfan On: 23-01-2014

dont eat antything in domminos piza as they serve pork stuffs they cooks in same pan and refrigerate in same freezer and cook by same shef and in same plates should not enter domminos i personly avoided this joint from past 4 years  i hope after reading this domminos will stop selling pork we will come back to domminos and enjoy some pizaa
Commented By: mohammed irfan On: 23-01-2014

dear bhaio  pls ask before ordering in hotels ask manager  they serve halal or nt that is must 
Commented By: mohammed irfan On: 23-01-2014

dear bhaio  pls ask before ordering in hotels ask manager  they serve halal or nt that is must and they serving halal and serving pork also in same place dont enter that place nxt time avoid this kind of joints we can make differnce
Commented By: Your religion is old On: 24-03-2011

Outdated.. Start making a new one.  One that makes sence in this new age. Get with it.
Commented By: zubi naaz On: 27-08-2013

guys ..if u wanted to confirm that chicken is halal or not in any kind of place..so simultaneously you just ask them to call any Muslim worker,who is working over there..and ask them in detail !!!!!!
and 1 more thing !!! domino's pizza is not halal ..its a machine cut ..i just confirmed 4m this number 04066688411

Commented By: zubi naaz On: 27-08-2013

guys ..if u wanted to confirm that chicken is halal or not in any kind of place..so simultaneously you just ask them to call any Muslim worker,who is working over there..and ask them in detail !!!!!!
and 1 more thing !!! domino's pizza is not halal ..its a machine cut ..i just confirmed 4m this number 04066688411

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